The Enneagram Uncovered: How Understanding Your Personality Type Can Change Your Life with Guest Teresa McCloy

Jun 24, 2023

This Episode is sponsored by the Think and Grow Rich Workshop, use code PODCST50 for 50% off at

In this enlightening episode of the Thinking Big Podcast, host Sean Osborn sits down with Teresa McCloy, a renowned Enneagram expert and creator of the Real Life Process. They dive into the depths of self-discovery, the Enneagram, and how understanding oneself can lead to a more fulfilling and harmonious life.

Key Takeaways:

  • The Real Life Process: Teresa McCloy introduces her life management system, the Real Life Process. It is divided into three parts: knowing your real self, living it out in your real life, and doing your best real work. The process helps individuals discover their true selves and live a life that reflects their values and passions.

  • The Enneagram: Teresa explains the Enneagram, a personality tool that has both a spiritual and psychological side. It is a drawing with nine different personalities, each representing a different core trait. The Enneagram helps individuals understand their thinking, emotional, and instinctual intelligence.

  • The Nine Types: The nine types in the Enneagram are Peace (Type 9), Goodness (Type 1), Love (Type 2), Effectiveness (Type 3), Creativity (Type 4), Wisdom (Type 5), Loyalty (Type 6), Joy (Type 7), and Power (Type 8). Each type has its strengths and weaknesses.

  • Energy Centers: Teresa talks about the three energy centers in the Enneagram – forward-moving, toward-moving, and away-moving. Understanding these energies helps in understanding how people interact and connect with others.

  • Nature, Nurture, and Free Will: Our personalities are shaped by the combination of our genetic makeup (nature), our upbringing and environment (nurture), and the choices we make (free will).

  • Living in Harmony: Teresa emphasizes the importance of living in harmony rather than balance. By understanding oneself through tools like the Enneagram, individuals can find internal peace and joy, regardless of external circumstances.

  • Sean's Enneagram Results: Sean shares that he took the Enneagram test for the first time and discusses the insights he gained from it.


  • "If you live from an internal place of rest, knowing yourself, what matters to you, who are the people that matter to you, then your work is going to come out of that." - Teresa McCloy
  • "There's more to it than just 'Oh, I can work from the pool or I can be in Hawaii or in the Bahamas'. It's really about the internal peace." - Teresa McCloy
  • "I want to know as much about how I work, how I'm wired, how I think, how I act, how I react, so that the anxiety in me can be managed." - Teresa McCloy
  • "It's the internal peace. So I want to know as much about how I work, how I'm wired, how I think, how I act, how I react, so that the anxiety in me can be managed." - Teresa McCloy


FREE Download of the REALIFE Enneagram Typing Guide

Your REALIFE Enneagram Personality Profile Package

Connect with Teresa McCloy:

Connect with Sean Osborn:

Closing Thoughts:

This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand themselves better and live a more fulfilling life. Teresa McCloy's insights into the Enneagram and the Real Life Process are invaluable tools for self-discovery and personal growth. Whether you are new to the Enneagram or have been using it for years, this episode will provide you with fresh perspectives and practical advice for living your best real life.

Don't forget to subscribe to the Thinking Big Podcast for more inspiring conversations with thought leaders and experts in various fields.

Thank you for listening!